Mojave Veterans Memorial Torn Down by Vandals

by lewwaters

Where the ACLU has failed, vandals have succeeded!

The Mojave Veterans Memorial, erected in 1934 in what is now a Federal Preserve, has been a target of destruction by the ACLU and others who have no respect for Veterans or our Memorials.

Erected by Veterans of World War One in the middle of the Mojave Desert, some 11 miles from the nearest highway, it became the target of Frank Buono, a retired National Park Service employee now residing in Portland, Oregon some 1100 miles away from the simple Memorial.

Making it all the way to the United States Supreme Court, after being encased in a plywood box for several years, the Memorial gained reprieve recently when the High Court ruled 5 to 4 to overturn a lower Court ruling mandating the Memorial be destroyed since it is in the form of a Cross.

As the case was returned to the District Courts, the ACLU has stated that it still plans to argue for the memorial to be torn down.

And now, someone has seen fit to dishonor America’s Veterans by taking it upon themselves to “cut the metal bolts that attached the symbol to a rock in the sprawling desert preserve” and remove the Memorial.

Linda Slater, National Park Service spokeswoman said, “Authorities had no immediate motive for the theft [and] possible suspects range from scrap metal scavengers to ‘people with an interest in the case’.”

We are told the US Justice Department is “looking into the case,” but given recent developments from them, I hold little hope they will look very far.

Clarence Hill, the national commander of the American Legion stated, “The American Legion expects whoever is responsible for this vile act to be brought to justice. While the memorial has been attacked, the fight will continue to ensure that Veterans Memorials will remain sacrosanct.”

Rees Lloyd, a former ACLU attorney and Director, Defense of Veterans Memorials Project of The American Legion Department of California says, “This is an outrage that must not go unredressed. Has our nation been so transformed that there are now those among us who would desecrate a Veterans Memorial by tearing down a cross which was established by veterans in 1934 in the remote Mojave Desert to honor the service and sacrifice of Veterans who have made our freedom possible, especially those who have given their lives?

Has the very soul America been so changed that this could even be contemplated by anyone in America?”

In a news release from Liberty Institute, VFW National Commander Thomas J. Tradewell, Sr said, “This was a legal fight that a vandal just made personal to 50 million Veterans, Military personnel and their families. To think anyone can rationalize the desecration of a War Memorial is sickening, and for them to believe they won’t be apprehended is very naive.”

Tradewell, himself a combat wounded Vietnam Veteran continued, “The memorial will be rebuilt and the vandals will be caught and prosecuted in federal court, since the crime occurred on government property. We hope this horrible act will highlight the importance of resolving this case quickly so that the memorial and land can be transferred to the VFW so that the service and sacrifice of all American war dead will be properly recognized and honored, as originally intended by a group of World War I VFW members 76 years ago.”

Liberty Institute is offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for this heinous assault on America’s Veterans Memorials.

For more information or to leave a tip, please visit http://www.donttearmedown.com/

For whoever did this, we’re coming for you.

14 Comments to “Mojave Veterans Memorial Torn Down by Vandals”

  1. Actually while I don’t condone theft or vandalism, I can see a touch of justice in this event.

    Ironically the vandals/thieves managed to do something the COURTS refused to do, namely UPHOLDING the Constitution!

    Now BEFORE you accuse ME of being some kind of “PINKO COMMIE”, let me CLUE you in, I am a 20 Year UNITED STATES MILITARY VETERAN!

    Where I differ from YOU is I believe in both Church and State, and believe in what JESUS said [render unto Caesar].

    You see people, if you TRULY believe, then you have to accept ALL of the Bible, NOT just those FEW passages that defend YOUR narrow position.

    The Vandals/Thieves violated the Scriptures too, BUT, God DOES work in MYSTERIOUS WAYS, does he NOT?

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  2. So Chuckie, by your reasoning, should the courts rule againt something we favor, it is justice for us to just do it anyways?

    Is that how the left sees a Nation of Laws functioning?

    Chuckie, your 20 years doesn’t carry that much weight with me, sorry. If you in fact did, good for you. How you seem to think that gives your views more weight than my serving in Viet Nam escapes me.

    I prefer to leave God out of Political discussions, but I too have a strong belief and yes, we are told to “render onto Ceaser that which is Ceaser’s.”

    But, since you wish to take this tact, allow me to elucidate you a little. If you read all of MarK 12:17, you will find, “And Jesus said to them, ‘Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.’ And they were amazed at Him.”

    Seems so many never get to that second portion of the scripture about “God’s things to God.”

    I would also remind those “bleeding hearts” that rely on misinterpretation of some scripture, 2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either.

    While a single scripture that has little actually to do with the theft of the Mojave Veterans Memorial, I’ll let you ponder for a bit on how it relates to your other views you have shown.

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  3. 1. I NEVER said that MY 20 years of military service carries more weight than your service in Viet Nam, but since YOU have made this challenge let ME challenge YOU wih THIS;

    MY FATHER did 26 YEARS of MILITARY SERVICE. Out of THAT service, he did 18 months in VIET NAM, 18 MONTHS in Korea, 18 months in TURKEY and 3 YEARS in GERMANY[I was with him on THAT tour BTW as a dependent].

    I did 20 years MYSELF in the armed forces INCLUDING TWO tours of duty in a COMBAT ZONE MYSELF [The FIRST Gulf war, and PANAMA!]

    I submit that MY service is EVERY BIT as imporatant as YOURS!

    But GUESS WHAT? My dad [remember the guy that served in TURKEY, VIET NAM, KOREA , GERMANY, for a grand total of 26 years of service] just happens to be a liberal progressive TOO!

    Got something to say ABOUT THAT Mr Lew Waters?

    Now that we have THAT settled LEW, lets get back to the ISSUE AT HAND.

    “Render unto Ceaser” supports the concept of SEPERATION of CHURCH and STATE,,,,PERIOD!!!!!

    BOTH the CONSTITUTION and THE WORD of JESUS CHRIST support this concept, so what’s YOUR PROBLEM LEW,

    If YOU

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  4. For the record;

    I NEVER said that MY 20 years of military service carries more weight than ANYONES service in Viet Nam, but since YOU have made this statement, let ME challenge YOU with THIS;

    MY FATHER did 26 YEARS of MILITARY SERVICE. Out of THAT service, he did 18 months in VIET NAM, 18 MONTHS in Korea, 1 year in TURKEY and 3 YEARS in GERMANY[I was with him on THAT tour BTW as a dependent].

    I did 20 years MYSELF in the armed forces INCLUDING TWO tours of duty in a COMBAT ZONE MYSELF [The FIRST Gulf war, and PANAMA!]

    I submit that MY service is EVERY BIT as important as YOURS!

    But GUESS WHAT? My dad [remember the guy that served in TURKEY, VIET NAM, KOREA , GERMANY, for a grand total of 26 years of service] just happens to be a liberal progressive TOO!

    Got something to say ABOUT THAT Mr Lew Waters?

    Now that we have THAT settled LEW, lets get back to the ISSUE AT HAND.

    “Render unto Ceaser” supports the concept of SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE,,,,PERIOD!!!

    BOTH the CONSTITUTION and THE WORD of JESUS CHRIST support this concept, so what’s YOUR PROBLEM LEW,

    If YOU want to go around and REINTERPRET, ADD TO or CONTRADICT what is ALREADY in the BIBLE, then maybe YOU should look into ANOTHER cult that ALREADY does that, [like the Mormons], or if you are one of those Psycho’s who hand pick JUST those passages that support YOUR political agenda while IGNORING Bible passages that CONTRADICT the REPUBLICAN platform, then maybe the Fundamentalist Evangelicals are more up your alley.

    So THERE LEW!

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  5. So which is it Lew?

    are you a Mormon? [Mitt Romney anyone?]

    or a Republican Fundamentalist Evangelical NUTJOB[closet queer] ,
    because you CERTAINLY are not a TRUE follower of the REAL teachings of JESUS CHRIST!

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  6. Chuckie, what your Dad did is what your Dad did. It has absolutely no reflection on you. Just as what my Dad and Uncles did during World War Two (all served in some capacity) has any reflection upon me.

    More than once you have felt the need to remind me that you served 20 years. That was one thing, misguided rhetoric is another. Just as I honor John McCain’s Naval career separately from his Senatorial career.

    Deal with it!

    Now, you seem to be the one ignoring portions of the Bible, as I showed you. Render onto Caeser that which is Caeser’s was in the context of taxes.

    Or, do you cling simply to selected scripture that you can fit into the liberal/progressive/socialist meme?

    I suggest you actually pick uop a Bible and read the scripture I supplied you so you can open your eyes and see that in it, nothing was added, contradicted or taken away. I gave you word for word what it says.

    I also suggest you study the background of the Bible a bit more and ascertain why certain things were stated in it. I might just have to show you how it says long hair on a man is dishonorable to him.

    You make so many assumptions about me and continually prove you know absolutely NOTHING! I don’t want Evangelicals running anything in politics. I also don’t want misguided liberal/progressive/socialists in charge of anything either.

    But, the funniest, and most revealing pile of Bovine Scatology you have given to date is claiming “a TRUE follower of the REAL teachings of JESUS CHRIST!”

    Hell son, it’s you ninnies that have been changing, watering down and ignoring the word of God for decades!

    Just remember that “narrow gate.”

    And no, I’m not Mormon nor am I a “closet queer.” But how homophobic of you to say. Like I said, you know nothing about me and obviously about conservatives either.

    Your rants are pathetic in false assumptions.

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  7. I was the 1st commenter on this thread, so it is YOU Pal who are making the assumptions.

    How could I be directing MY military service at YOU when MY comment was ORIGINALLY the FIRST and ONLY comment on this thread at the time that I made it!!!!!

    BTW

    If you have an answer for THAT ONE[McCain?] I’d love to hear it.

    You must think awful highly of yourself if YOU think that EVERY comment made on “Clark County Conservative” AUTOMATICALLY involves YOU [it does NOT!]

    The truth is that YOU are angry at ME for ANOTHER confrontation on ANOTHER tread, that had NOTHING to do with THIS ONE, so in ANGER YOU decided to attack me here with YOUR LIES!

    So I think it is YOU who is out of turn and it is for YOU to DEAL WITH IT!

    We DO agree on ONE THING however, if I read you right, you too believe in the separation of Church and State.

    Where we differ if EVERY OTHER amendment to the Constitution save “The right to bare arms that YOU SLAUGHTER!

    That’s right Lew, I’m a firm believer in the right to keep ard bare arms too, as are MANY MANY so called “Liberals”.

    Jesus was[AND STILL IS] a LIBERAL TOO!

    DEAL WITH THAT!

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  8. I was the 1st commenter on this thread, so it is YOU Pal who are making the assumptions.

    How could I be directing MY military service at YOU when MY comment was ORIGINALLY the FIRST and ONLY comment on this thread at the time that I made it!!!!!

    BTW it was YOU who said that YOUR service in VIET NAM was more important than MY service, in fact MY ADDITIONAL comments about ME and MY DADS service was in response to YOUR ATTACKS!

    Get the facts straight before inserting foot pal!

    If you have an answer for THAT ONE[McCain?] I’d love to hear it.

    You must think awful highly of yourself if YOU think that EVERY comment made on “Clark County Conservative” AUTOMATICALLY involves YOU [it does NOT!]

    The truth is that YOU are angry at ME for ANOTHER confrontation on ANOTHER tread, that had NOTHING to do with THIS ONE, so in ANGER YOU decided to attack me here with YOUR LIES!

    So I think it is YOU who is out of turn and it is for YOU to DEAL WITH IT!

    We DO agree on ONE THING however, if I read you right, you too believe in the separation of Church and State.

    Where we differ is EVERY OTHER amendment to the Constitution except “The right to bare arms”

    That’s right Lew, I’m a firm believer in the right to keep and bare arms too, as are MANY MANY so called “Liberals”.

    But I believe in ALL of what the constitution says, and THAT is where we differ!

    PROGRESSIVES look at issues as THEY ARE; COMPLEX

    UNLIKE conservatives who adhere to the “one size fits all” mentality.

    That’s why WE NEVER fit into YOUR NARROW MINDED descriptions of us.

    Simple minds like YOURS can’t grasp complex situations so you paint EVERYONE and EVERYTHING with a NARROW BRUSH!

    Up to and including PROGRESSIVES!

    Jesus was[AND STILL IS] a LIBERAL TOO!

    DEAL WITH THAT!

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  9. Chuckie, from your first comment, you felt the need to “clue me in” that you are a 20 year Navy Veteran. You are truly a legend in your own mind when in reality, you are little more than a pimple on the ass of humanity.

    Your delusions are monumental as is your undeserved ego.

    It’s too bad you spend so much time braying your delusional rhetoric here instead of rehearsing more. Otherwise, your group might sound a little better than a couple dozen tin cans being thrown down a flight of metal stairs.

    Enjoy following the herd, moron.

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  10. OH BTW LEW, about YOUR comment about MY music, do you REALLY THINK I care what a LOSER like YOU thinks of MY music.

    The fact that YOU don’ t like us JUST CONFIRMS that I must be ON TARGET!

    Thanks for the compliment dip$#iT!

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  11. Lew if MY comment was the FIRST and ONLY comment on THIS THREAD, how could I have directed ANYTHING at a comment made by you?

    [Lew said; Chuckie, from your first comment, you felt the need to “clue me in” that you are a 20 year Navy Veteran.]

    I “clued you in” AFTER you attacked me in a COUNTER RESPONSE where YOU reasoned that YOUR service in Viet Nam was more important than My Service.

    ONLY THEN did I bring up my father, [I was not an adult during the Viet Nam war]. Guess you missed THAT POINT TOO!

    Are YOU saying that I have the ability to answer YOUR comment BEFORE you POST it?

    Do YOU have ANY IDEA how DUMB that sounds?

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  12. Chuckie, do you need a WAHMBULANCE? Or, just some cheese to go with your whine?

    As typical, you liberals feel the need to enter a forum and spew your crap and then think free speech rights means no one can counter what you bray.

    Wrong. We have free speech too and if this venue is not of your liking, why come in? No one forces you to appear here, but by my graciousness, you are permitted to.

    Stop your whining and act like a man, son.

    As for your music (?), if that is what pleases your ears, so be it. It might be better if some talent was applied to it.

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  13. Lew, Lew, Lew. I have been doing music for more that 30 years now. I have EVERY confidence in what I am capable of, and judging from audience response, there seems to be others who agree.
    I am also branching out into recording, and musical equipment design. I’ve even started helping out other local rock bands in the area be offering my time equipment and expertise in recording services [often free of charge], because that’s the kind of guy I am.

    I also play for three other different bands as well; One is an original hard rock band, one is a blues band, and the other is a Christian band.

    All sound totally different from the other, and all are important to me.

    I’ ve been at this so long I guess I have developed an attitude of confidence that is not shaken much by the offhand comments of others

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  14. LOL, Chuckie, you’re too easy.

    But hey, we agree on those Westboro cretins, so for now, let’s relish that.

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