Don’t Ban, Recycle

by lewwaters

With all that the governor has placed on the table for the legislature to deal with in a short 60 day session, sales tax increase, $3.6 Billion in transportation wants, funding education and same sex marriage, why would they waste time considering a ban on plastic bags that will not help anyone in the state and in fact, would cost us more jobs in Washington State?

Younger folks might not realize it, but plastic bags were a demand of environmentalists’ decades ago in order to “save the trees.” Prior to that, brown paper bags were the norm, but tree huggers came along and with their demand to do away with the paper bags, the plastic bags we see today became the norm.

Early plastic bags were a made of a compound dependent upon petroleum and as the industry became aware of the drawbacks of petroleum based plastics, developed more bio-degradable materials to manufacture them from.

As recycling of such materials became more common, companies sprang up that recycled the bags and manufactured more out of the recycled materials.

One such company is Hilex Poly who says of their operations,

Hilex Poly’s sustainability goal is to establish a viable environmental program and product line that:
• Reduces the impact of plastic on the environment through recycling and increased recycled content
• Sets a high standard of industry leadership and corporate citizenship
• Creates meaningful benefits for the environment and the community
• Facilitates environmental action by retailers and the community

Left unsaid but obvious, they also employ American workers in America.

Just this past Wednesday, Vice President of Sustainability and Environmental Policy for Hilex Poly, Mark Daniels appeared before our legislature to testify on what a ban on plastic bags would mean in the way of jobs and how the desired effect could not be met.

Mark said,

“Washington residents interested in reducing litter and protecting the environment would be far better served supporting a statewide recycling program rather than an all-out ban on retail plastic carry-out bags, a policy which will only push consumers to alternatives that are less sustainable, not more. The truth is banning one product that makes only one to two percent of litter will have no meaningful impact on litter. Instead, it will result in forcing consumers to use products such as reusable bags, which are mostly imported from China, made from foreign oil and are not recyclable, or to use paper bags, which have a larger carbon footprint than plastic bags.
“There is a better way. According to EPA data, plastic bag recycling increased 24 percent between 2009 and 2010 nationwide. Washington has the opportunity to show real environmental leadership and enact a comprehensive recycling plan that actually reduces litter, saves American jobs and protects consumer choice.”

In February 2011, Shoreline Liberal Democrat Senator Marilyn Chase appeared on KPAM 860’s Victoria Taft show speaking some of the most outrageous hyperbole I’ve ever heard on banning plastic bags. Listen here.

I find her position to be totally incredulous as she does not even consider recycling, even after many years of forcing recycling of all other recyclable materials on us.

The jobs lost during these dire economic times with such a ban are shown in a Fact Sheet compiled and supplied by Bag the


Our unemployment in Washington State remains above the national average with Clark County even higher than that. With the legislature placing the burgeoning budget gap on the back burner to push same-sex marriage first, pushing legislation that will cost more jobs and place more restrictions on taxpayers is not in the best interest of the state.

Do we really want to become more dependent upon China for shopping bags that have been shown to carry a much larger risk to retain bacteria that might be contaminating other food products placed in them?

I would hope not.

If you are as tired as I am of being pushed round by government and for reasons that will not benefit society, I urge you to sign this petition and tell our legislators, “Bag the Ban.”

We need to keep our jobs and our freedoms, not have even more restrictive policies passed on us by elected people who believe they know better and accomplish nothing!

10 Comments to “Don’t Ban, Recycle”

  1. The Lefties are far more interested in dictating to and controlling the average person than they ever were about actually “accomplishing” anything, Lew.

    It’s funny you know, the little “free love” and “anti-establishment” know-it-all anarchist bastards have created a tyrannical “establishment” far worse than anything than the disgusting little pukes faced in the 60’s and 70’s.

    Their only interest is in making everybody live the way THEY want us to.


  2. That has been the goal all along, Jack. Totalitarianism similar to the Soviet Union.


  3. Plastic bag phobia is completely irrational and economically unjustifiable. But then, so is much of the rest of the eco-nut-job agenda, starting with the Spotted Owl nonsense that wiped out the logging industry and thousands of jobs, right up to the present day.


  4. It’s a religious cult, Tom.


  5. You are both absolutely right. They know that they can’t control or change the mindset of those who love and cherish our freedoms, our country and what once was our way of life. Unable to completely subdue us, those who “sit in their cushioned seat of authority” have found a way, if not how to silence us, to slow us down.

    Completely aware that there or more of them then us they are, in my opinion, like a juggler, simultaneiously throwing so many different issues at us that we can only pick one or two to contest. And little by little they are taking complete control of how we are to live our lives. After all they only do what they do because they want to help.

    Remember what President Reagan said were some of the most frightening words:


    If we don’t wake up the old Silent Majority we are doomed and
    I fear for my grandchildren.

    And so it goes


  6. Some might need to ask how many products in Washington state are made from the recycled plastic products right here? I bet there are a number of plastic recycling pellet manufacturers around but how many form made plastic items might be made here?

    Anyone ever heard of cellulosic plastic made items? corned based polymer bags? Guess I could go on and on…


  7. Do not be fooled, this is not about plastic bags or anything even close. It is about control. Whether it be: not allowing smoking in Parks or not praying in School, limiting how many people can assemble without a permit, where and how you can build your home, it is a veiled attempt to increase government control over “We the People”. And it is working for them.

    We are told, that seemingly simple rules and regulation from those that prevent children from setting up Lemonade Stands without a permit to more economically devestating rules that prevent oil drilling, that these new rules and regulations are necessary to protect and save us from ourselves.

    After all, “those sitting in their cushioned seats of authority”, just want to do is help.

    What a Crock!!!

    And so it goes


  8. Larry, good summation. I agree with you on that point. And if you look around every single grocery store, even the biggest box stores have plastic bins for recycling plastic bags if they are properly washed, dried and bundled within.

    So why are we even having to have this discussion? Isn’t there a law against littering? Isn’t there a law against pollution?

    Isn’t the laws on the books good enough? Are they simply not being enforced because the state or local municipalities have NO money to enforce the laws?? Wasn’t their a litter line that was cut because of budget issues and the state did not seem to feel it was a good use of financial resources to have a tip line to report scafflaws?

    Oh, that’s right. We have great laws but NO new money to enforce them. Why does this seem like a government idea that does not need to be done?

    Lew, there are a few things that you can USE to nail people making suggestions that we need bag bans!


  9. Now Jeremy, you know they have money to enforce the great laws you speak of. It’s that money tree orchard in Oly, remember??? I think they’re taking out Washington State Apple Orchards and replacing them with these GM Money trees (oops, did I really say that???) And from what I’ve heard…our state government alone has managed a fantastic harvest this past year and could be looking at another good money tree harvest this next year if they approve the transportation funding!!!

    Wish I knew where that money tree orchard was…
    (sarcasm ended)

    BTW, I’m wondering…is anybody aware there’s actually a market to recycle those plastic bags in order to make crocheted market sacks??? It’s true. Would you believe also that I have a pattern to make one of those blasted things??? Now all those busy crocheters who try to make a few extra bucks to help bring in groceries once in a while will have to find something else to recycle should this ridiculous law pass. (What a waste of taxpayer $$$!!!)


  10. Enforcement, Oly-alaland, Godlie? Honestly, Lew has been reporting that gay marriage and a lot of other time wind-up twisters are more important than real legislation.

    And HEAVEN for bit, the state GOP is dumber than the state democrat party. (though I do have my local political favorites that show me who REAL statesman & woman are.) So I doubt the state legislature is ever going to stop idiot ideas like THIS one.

    Honestly, how many different legislative agendas are so not needed but get pushed into our messy vitality form of government?

    And if there is a place I can shake that money tree from, I’d sure shake it! Just to prove a point that I could do it! 🙂 Then I would send Jack and Lew up there to shake it and pass the money back to the citizens….


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