Is this where we say, Told you so?
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Is this where we say, Told you so?
After Obama victory, Iran says US shouldn’t expect talks
Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division
Where America is headed, 21st Century Cuba
We have reached the tipping point. Those that have their hands out and are voting now outnumber the ones paying the bills. I fear that the Republican party will not recover based on the rapid increase of minorities voting almost all for liberal Democrats willing to offer them anything if they can stay in power long enough to enrich themselves.
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Here’s a suggestion: Conservatism is dying. Y’all need to offer up someone more moderate. Romney, really? A filthy rich Mormon? How does he “connect” with the working poor Hispanic voter?
I get the need for a fiscal conservative, but you need to find someone that’s that, but doesn’t mind if two dudes get married, or wanna get stoned. You have to figure out how to get the Latino vote, the black vote and the women’s vote. You got the white guy thing sewn up but this isn’t a white country anymore. People are tired of old white men telling them how the country is going to be run, what their moral compass is going to be, and what women are allowed to do with their bodies. That’s really why you lost.
Unless you figure out how to cross that hurdle, and honestly I don’t see anyone in your party that fits that bill, the Republican party is going to die the death of a thousand cuts. Who’s next Jeb Bush? So get on it, ’cause a lot of us are watching.
This is coming from a Independent voter just so you know.
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Alright, I was trying to be polite. Fuck off. You’re not the only person that’s “served” your country as you tout so often.
I was trying to have a bit of debate about how you as conservatives could move forward and bring independent voters like myself to vote republican. You must be angry right now.
I left the vote for president “blank”. I have a job, benefits and would like to see a true fiscal conservative. All you can do is cuss at me? THAT is why your party can’t get votes.
Best Local Political Blog my ass. Delete this (like I know you will), and learn to debate like an adult you angry old man.
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So only people that agree with you or don’t veer too far from your viewpoints are allowed to post here? That’s interesting, because the reason I’m here is I like to gather both sides opinion before forming my own. Seems like you’d be better informed that way. But it’s your site (Nice Theme choice, but you should turn down the white in the background, it’s distracting) so good luck and whatnot.
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piss on “moderates”. People who try to sit in the middle of the road singing “kumbaya” get run over by trucks. A wise sage once said: “can’t we all just get along” as someone was beating the holy crap out of him.
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Let’s see if you leave this up for Jack. Lew deleted one of my posts. Probably because I used the ‘f” word after he called me an asshole. Carry on gentlemen.
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As governor, Romney signed into law a gun control ban. As recently as four months ago, he supported the gun ban, and in fact had words of praise for himself about how he worked across the aisle to get that gun ban into law.
The NRA endorsed Romney.
I used to belong to the Republican Party and the NRA. I’m glad I no longer do.
Lots of people spout off about the Supreme Court, but if John Roberts is the best you can do, then no thanks. If Obamacare is Constitutional per Republican-endorsed Roberts, then what is *not* Constitutional?
If Romney is the best the idiotic Republic Party can come up with, then good riddance.
Romney & Obama both support gun control, mandatory health insurance, Guantanamo, etc. What is the difference between the two candidates?
How about a candidate that endorses:
1. repudiation of Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid as it cannot be paid for
2. withdrawal of US forces back to the border, as the founding fathers advised
3. withdrawal of US govt from student loans & house loans
4. withdrawal of US govt from health insurance, and instead removes insurance from the employer via tax reform
5. withdrawal of US govt from education, deferring it to the states
6. withdrawal of US govt from drug prohibition, deferring it to the states
7. sincere adoption of the US Constitution
States rights. Where is the Republican party on this?
The US dollar has significantly declined due to Federal Reserve printing. What is/was Romney’s position on this?
Why in the world should I vote for Romney, a loser Obama clone? And why in the world would anyone be bitter that Obama won vs. Romney, when they espouse virtually identical positions?
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Oh, don’t think I voted for Obama. He is as despicable as Romney.
The fact that you would think I supported Obama in any way shows you don’t have the slightest idea of my position.
Both candidates were abysmal.
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Lew, if John Roberts is a R candidate, then are you really willing to argue that a D candidate would be worse???
How in the world do you support Robert’s endorsement of Obamacare??? When the chips were down, Roberts supported Obama. Is that not clear?
If my choice is Hitler vs Stalin I simply refuse to play.
Obama vs. Romney — again I ask where are the significant policy differences? Both support gun control and mandatory health insurance. What is the difference between the two? Doesn’t it make more sense to reject that awful scenario altogether?
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“What you all failed to understand is this might have been the last free election we have, ”
I’m disappointed in you, too. Do you really think the Oathkeepers will be beaten by Homeland Security?
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Ooo. You outed me. Picking on semantics “you” is something I’d say to democrats also. I also said that you (and by you I mean Republicans) need to understand that America on the whole is becoming socially liberal. We’ve met and bypassed the 50% mark for accepting gays for example. We’re living in the brave new world with internet and an increasingly younger voting population. A population that doesn’t buy into conservatism of old. Socially.
I’m very aware that there’s conservative minorities. I work with some. Good folk, but they too realize that in order to fix the country fiscally, they got to let the bible thumping moral angle go, and and get someone in that can handle the money. Who is that? Who’s the hot upstart waiting in the wings?
I’m willing to call out Democrats fiscally. I don’t agree with the bigger government. States rights need to be restored. I’m not as liberal as you think Lew. Now can you answer me like an adult without calling me an asshole?
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Are you saying tha “old white guys ” shouldn’t be allowed to voice their opinions, Martin? How un-American of you.
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America is becoming socially a bunch of selfish, greedy bastards who severely need “wake-up call and that “wake-up call” is gonna come sooner rather than later. in the form of a huge financial collapse or a nuclear war, take your pick.
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The only reason that Obozo got elected is because 3 million Republicans stayed home and didn’t vote.Romney wasn’t conservative enough. for them. It was the same problem as when McCain was the candidate. Nobody wanted McCain so they stayed home.
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@Jack, of course I think “old white guys” should have opinions. And I agree that financial collapse is just around the corner actually.
Not to beat a dead horse, but gotta separate the money from the morals.
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@Lew. Yes, I’m socially liberal. I’m fiscally conservative. I think that we need some regulation in some areas (banking and the environment for example), but on the whole, policy should be by and large set by the states.
@Jack, I know. I voted for Reagan ’cause of his fiscal responsibility. I didn’t agree with some of his policies, but it’s a “scales” thing to me. Pro’s and con’s. All I’m (we’re) getting now is conned.
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We’re all getting screwed, Don. it’s not a “con” because we can all see who is screwing us and we’ve elected the “screwers”.Hopefully those who voted without thinking will get the worst screwing because they deserve it
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It’s strange about the morals thing. I thought that’s what would attract the church-going blacks and Catholic Hispanics. I assumed that they were opposed to such things as abortion and homosexual marriage. Of course, Romney wasn’t the best candidate for a truly conservative message either. I see him as Obama-lite – maybe that’s why he lost.
The liberals are reading this election as a mandate for Progressivism – I think they’re wrong. People are reluctant to change leadership in the first place unless they have a dire need to do so, and there is a stark contrast in the candidates. Since Romney didn’t make a strong case for a “dire need” (you’ll recall him agreeing almost entirely with Obama’s foreign policy positions), and he does certainly not provide a clear philosophical contrast to Obama, the voters decided to stick with what they had.
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Craig, there’s no mandate for anything. As an Obama Liberal (not a Progressive), I simply view the situation as continuing down the right course: No foreign wars, Keynesian economics, separation of Church & State, and inclusive democracy. Conservatives are the ones (it seems from my point of view) with an agenda. It seems to me they WANT foreign wars, they WANT religious mandates, they have NO understanding of economics, and they WANT to keep people from voting. Those are the differences – all the other talk just seems like senseless noise.
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Young skulls full of mush that will spend their years paying for everybody else’s “goodies”What a bunch of suckers they are.
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Martin, I know that you consider yourself something an expert in economic theory, and maybe you are, but really “keynesian economics”? Seems like there’s a bit too much of that going on. I agree with you that there needs to be some kind of oversight and control, otherwise we’d be back in the late 19th century with our country run by a viscious oligarchy of overlords, but the liberals are going way overboard. The Affordable Health Care Act being one of those overreaches into the economy. Theodore Roosevelt, who pretty much destroyed the control the uber rich had on the economy, would be spinning in his grave at what the Obamites are doing.
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ps. Martin – I agree with your position regarding foreign wars. I’ve been very supportive of Obama’s decisions regarding Iran, Russia, Syria. I think maybe he’s been a little too patient with Iran, but perhaps that patience will pay off. He did miss an opportunity to provide at least moral support for the freedom movement in Iran though. He made the right decision to pull out of the missile defense ‘shield’ in Poland, and he’s on a pretty good course with Syria. I didn’t agree with his intervention in Libya though. There’s hundreds of bases that we should shut down around the world that he hasn’t done anything about as well. I’d still give him a C+ or B.
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Craig, Roosevelt had socialized heathcare as part of his platform. In fact, as of now, all of Teddy’s platform has been implemented in the U.S. It only took 100 years!!!
Keynesian economics simply says that all money spent by government is a loan that must be repaid. The only rules are that the economy is closed (no Trade Deficit), and more production than consumption. There is no question Keynesianism works – the problem is the people who got the loan won’t repay it!
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Lew, we know from the Clinton era about what the tax rates have to be to repay the loan. However, it’s too late now – $12 trillion is too much to make up – hyperinflation MUST happen.
I’m just guessing, but I think we agree that driving off the Fiscal Cliff is the right thing to do (even though we have different reasoning.)
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Yeah, I’m prepared. But you’re right, it’s going to be ugly. I’m not looking forward to it.
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Lew, regarding the Iranian attempt to shoot down a US drone – the administration had to keep it quiet. Otherwise it would have become a political football and that wouldn’t have done anyone any good. The right response was a non-response, but that wouldn’t have happened if the Republicans got hold of it. Besides, I bet whoever was responsible for firing the missile (ie. the Colonel or whoever in charge of the battery) got demoted or cashiered for missing the drone.
I do find it odd that the “media” never got wind of the incident – that’s pretty hard to believe. If they knew of the incident and didn’t report it, then they did the right thing for the wrong reason.
The Pretraeus incident is very troubling. Only the very naive would believe it to be a coincidence that the head of the CIA – who had the clearest understanding of exactly what occurred in Benghazi – lost his job the week before he was to testify to Congress about those events. It’s unclear that Obama had any direct knowlege or involvement in the affair (plausible deniability, but you can bet people in his administration were pulling the strings. Even if he testifies at a later date, he can now claim to be (or accused of being), “out of the loop” and “not up to date with current analysis”. Clever move by Axelrod.
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Lew, don’t you think there were legitimate national security reasons for not revealing the attempted shoot-down? The President is commander-in-chief. I think it’s his call on how to respond to incidents like that without public debate isn’t it?
They’ll (the media) probably start referring to General Pretraeus as “Betrayus” again – like they did when he supported Bush’s surge in Iraq.
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Obozo thinks that Seals are just supposed to be cannon fodder. The sonuvabitch has no respect for anything, including himself.
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