Lazy C Was For a Vote Before They Were Against a Vote

by lewwaters

Boris ColumbianReaders know I have little regard for the Columbian, aka the Lazy C due to their shoddy reporting, lack of interest in reporting negative reports on Democrats and their continued inconsistency directed towards the public.

Wednesday, October 9, 2013 shows once again why their subscriptions continue to decline and why so few in Clark County trust them.

We all know that the CRC light rail project is big news and the community remains divided, many citizens outraged over a recent agreement to enter into a binding contract with TriMet for their financially troubled light rail and surrendering our sovereignty to Oregon just weeks before a scheduled advisory vote by citizens, essentially ruling the vote null and void even before it is held.

On this day the Lazy C editorializes;

In Our View: No on Mass Transit Votes

Published: October 9, 2013, 6:01 AM

“The advisory votes regarding transportation issues provide an important lesson in democracy. By attempting to dictate the course of action for sitting or future Clark County commissioners, the measures attempt to subvert the purpose of representative democracy.”

But, they were not always so dead set against citizens having a vote;

Let the community be heard
By Lou Brancaccio
Columbian Editor
Saturday, March 12, 2011

“On Monday, I came in and suggested an editorial. I shipped an e-mail to our editorial board.”

With the idea growing stronger that the sales tax vote on maintenance of light rail really won’t be a make-or-break vote on the bridge, I’d like to … open the discussion on whether or not (the community) should have a vote on light rail and the bridge,.”

“I went on to voice support of the communitywide vote.”

To not have an advisory vote on this huge issue is disenfranchising to the community.” (emphasis added)

“One thing we should do as a newspaper is make sure the community has a voice. We do that, for example, with the comments area of our website.”

“I learn a lot from reading and engaging readers in our comments section. It’s fair to say, frankly, those comments played a major role in my pushing this vote idea.”

“Look, we all know there are many players, many voices that have to be heard on this bridge issue. It’s not just a Clark County thing.”

“Regardless, Clark County leaders should hear from Clark County residents.”

“Not everything should rise to the level of holding a vote to hear voices. But huge things should.”

“ And this is a huge thing.”

In Our View: Mixed Messages

Published: November 10, 2011, 6:03 AM

“Thus we have the completion of a paradoxical circle: Many local residents support C-Tran, but many resist tolls, which are part of the CRC plans, which include light rail, which probably will be brought up to a public vote by — you guessed it — C-Tran.”

“This is one reason we’ve advocated a countywide vote on light rail. It would be that significant of a change in our community. It’s a change that we editorially support, but that’s not what counts. Establishing a true public consensus is what counts.”

Additionally, over the years this fiasco has been pending and elected rulers connived to force it on us, many promises were made to citizens, evidence below.

Where links are still live, I have attempted to include them.

Voters may hold bridge trump card
By Erik Robinson
Columbian staff writer
Monday, November 9, 2009

“ ‘You definitely run a risk of deflating other high-capacity transit in the community if folks decide on one particular aspect when they vote,’ Leavitt said. ‘But there’s only so many ways you can slice the pie’.”

“Leavitt acknowledged that it’s possible the new sales tax measure could evolve into a referendum on light rail — and, by extension, the Columbia River Crossing as a whole.”

“ ‘Could it kill the project if voters say they don’t want a sales tax increase?’ Leavitt said. ‘It would then be up to the political leadership to say we’re going to have to come up with an alternative. It’s going to have to come out of somebody’s budget, or maybe we ask the voters a second time’.”

Commissioners call for C-TRAN to put light rail to public vote in Clark County

August 4, 2010

“The commissioners’ resolution says ‘a clear vote on light rail’ is necessary to reduce confusion about public transportation planning and improvements, including proposals to enhance the bus and van services provided by C-TRAN.”

“ ‘On numerous occasions, we have said there must be a public vote on light rail,’ said Board Chair Steve Stuart. ‘We need a clear vote that separates the issue of light rail from funding needed to continue core services’.”

Fate of light rail will go before voters
By Erik Robinson
Columbian Staff Reporter
Tuesday, September 14, 2010

“ ‘It’s going to the voters,’ county Commissioner Steve Stuart said afterward. ‘There will be a clear vote on light rail’.”

“Leavitt concurred. ‘This is it,’ he said.”

Voters will determine C-Tran future in 2012
By Jeff Hamm
Sunday, November 20, 2011

“While the CRC project and light rail has generated an intense amount of interest and discussion throughout the region, it is important to understand C-Tran’s role in the project and what citizens may be asked for in order to fulfill that part of the agency’s adopted 20 Year Transit Development Plan. In 2008, the C-Tran Board of Directors voted to support the CRC project with two funding-related conditions:’

1. “That C-Tran would not have to ask its voters to fund any construction elements of Light Rail Transit (LRT); and …”
2. “That C-Tran would ask voters to fund only the Vancouver side’s share of the LRT operations and maintenance costs.”

Broad vote on light rail gains C-Tran support
By Eric Florip
Columbian Staff Reporter
Tuesday, March 20, 2012

“Board members who support giving C-Tran’s entire service area a say on transit changes for Vancouver offered different reasons for doing so. Most said they’ve heard loud and clear from their constituents on a topic that holds implications for the Columbia River Crossing project. Commissioner Steve Stuart suggested it comes down to simply following the agency’s past pledges.”

“ ‘We said we would,’ Stuart said. ‘It’s the right thing to do’.”

C-Tran board: Light rail vote will happen this fall
By Eric Florip
Columbian Staff Reporter
Tuesday, April 10, 2012

“Clark County Commissioner Steve Stuart, who floated the compromise near the end of Tuesday’s meeting, said the bottom line is giving residents a say on light rail, as C-Tran has long said it would.”

“ ‘The movement is to a vote in November 2012,’ Stuart said. ‘That’s what we promised. That’s what this resolution is about.”

Voters might be asked to approve light rail head tax
By Andrea Damewood
Columbian Staff Reporter
Monday, May 21, 2012

“Mayor Tim Leavitt, who led the call to stall a sales tax vote this November, said he favors a head-tax vote. He challenged the council’s two light rail skeptics, Stewart and Bill Turlay, to back a vote as well. Stewart declined, but Turlay said: ‘I don’t care what (the tax) is, I’ll support any vote of the people’.”

C-Tran board backs light rail vote
By Eric Florip
Columbian Staff Reporter
Tuesday, June 12, 2012

“Leavitt voted with his council for Tuesday’s C-Tran resolution — following city policy — but made it clear he’s not sold on the outcome. Given the other opportunities recently explored, there are other ways to ‘crack a $2.5 million nut,’ he said.”

“ ‘I have yet to hear one legitimate reason to ask citizens to approve a sales tax,’ Leavitt said.

“Now, it appears that long-awaited and long-promised vote is a reality.”

Another light rail vote on horizon?
C-Tran, county seek clarity on paying for transit system
By Eric Florip
Columbian Staff Reporter
Sunday, December 23, 2012

“ ‘It’s always good to get clarity,’ said Clark County Commissioner Steve Stuart, also a C-Tran board member. ‘To get clarity on this subject will help for us to have a better discussion.”

“ ‘This is a discussion we need to have,’ said Larry Smith, C-Tran’s board chairman. ‘To come back and change something that we’ve already told the public means there’s some loss of respect … I think there’s a danger in that.”

Aren’t you tired of being lied to yet?

Choose your vote wisely this year and stop the lies and corruption.

9 Comments to “Lazy C Was For a Vote Before They Were Against a Vote”

  1. Very good research Lew. Thank you.

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  2. When the Nazi’s took over the Reichstag, that was “representative democracy.”

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  3. I used to respect Steve Stuart, Lou Brancaccio, and Larry Smith. This is just sad.

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  4. The Columbian also had this to say in an editorial printed November 10, 2011: In Our View: Mixed Messages

    “Thus we have the completion of a paradoxical circle: Many local residents support C-Tran, but many resist tolls, which are part of the CRC plans, which include light rail, which probably will be brought up to a public vote by — you guessed it — C-Tran.”

    “This is one reason we’ve advocated a countywide vote on light rail. It would be that significant of a change in our community. It’s a change that we editorially support, but that’s not what counts. Establishing a true public consensus is what counts.”

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  5. Thanks Craig. I had missed that one, but it is now added in with the rest.

    Thanks again, this is what I like seeing, people researching for themselves and adding in their own findings.

    It’s how we will restore our community.

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  6. There was a vote on light rail and Bus Rapid Transit in Nov. 2012, a vote on what they then called high capacity transit, a vote required by law and CTRAN 2008 CRC policy. CTRAN Voters rejected light rail and Bus Rapid Transit, every city in the county rejected light rail and BRT. That vote is the one being currently ignored.
    The November 2013 countywide votes gives all county voters a chance to affirm the vote requirement, to say yes to a countywide vote on both light rail, and Bus Rapid Transit.

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  7. Lew, shall we take a walk down memory lane??? Note in the article I presented, Steve Stuart’s comment with Betty Sue Morris regarding Pollard’s comments. Funny what we can dig up from the past!!!

    http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/archive/index.php/t-141411.html

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  8. I am requesting everybody send everything no matter how insignificant to me please for collating the files to present to the public and if needed use in court.

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  9. Carolyn, I do not have your email.

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