Posts tagged ‘Pat Campbell’

April 17, 2012

Pat Campbell Throws His Tattered Hat In The Ring For County Commission

by lewwaters

At first I thought I was reading a political spoof when I read the Columbian’s article, Former Vancouver councilor to run for county commission Pat Campbell to challenge Boldt, Madore, newcomer, but see that Pat, who didn’t even get passed the primaries in last years’ elections, lost his city council seat after one term.

I lost my smile when I read and saw he is serious, though.

Reading through the article, it is obvious that someone is terrified that conservative successful businessman, David Madore, a well educated opponent to the current CRC project is also running for the seat currently held by Marc Boldt, a strong supporter of the CRC as designed.

Boldt, who was elected as a Republican, has come under the scorn of Republicans throughout the county for his siding with Liberal Democrat commissioner, Steve Stuart so often, more often than he supports conservative Republican commissioner, Tom Mielke, covered by this blog here and here.

And now, Pat Campbell, also a strong supporter of the CRC, feels he should try to fill Boldt’s seat?

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January 10, 2012

Turlay Takes Oath of Office for City Council Seat

by lewwaters

Bill Turlay, winner of a 3 way contest of Vancouver City Council position number 6 took the oath of office last evening, along with returning council members, Bart Hansen and Larry Smith. The oath was administered by city attorney, Ted Gaithe.

Bill’s wife, Stephanie stood by his side holding a family Bible as Bill placed his left hand on the Bible and taking the oat with his right hand raised.

Although no longer required to do so, he was the only one of the three taking the oath to place his hand on a Bible or use the traditional ending to an oath, “so help me God.”

Clark County Conservative welcomes Bill Turlay to the city council and we look forward to exciting days ahead.

December 20, 2011

Vancouver, Washington City Council Bids Pat Campbell Farewell

by lewwaters

Pat Campbell, who lost his bid for reelection to the Vancouver, Washington city council in the 2011 election, is given due honors and thanks for his term on city council.

Pat and I have exchanged words more than once and our emails often contained snarky comments to each other, but he did what few others are willing to do. Run for public office and sit in the line of fire from citizens.

Regardless of differences, Pat thoroughly investigated positions he took and more than once, cast votes we could not disagree with and many times brought laughter to council meetings with his “stories.”

Bill Turlay will be replacing Pat and has been very helpful in preparing Bill to take over his seat.

I don’t know what is in Pat’s future, but I hope he sticks around and remains involved.

October 26, 2011

Turlay Endorsed by Campbell, McEnerny-Ogle Reaction Disappointing

by lewwaters

In a move that seems to have surprised most everybody, outgoing Vancouver City Council member Pat Campbell has come out endorsing Bill Turlay as best suited to replace him.

Campbell endorses Turlay for his Vancouver seat

Campbell cites as his reason, “Although Bill Turlay and I take opposite stances on some local issues such as light rail, public bus service, and the Columbia River Crossing (not to mention our disagreements on national issues!), I am endorsing him for the citizens. Position 6 has a history of being occupied by straight shooters who have put service ahead of self or reelection.”

“Bill doesn’t make rash promises or play people for political gain. He hasn’t put himself in the middle of property or labor negotiations for political traction. Most voters know where Bill stands. Many more need to know that he is a man of integrity, friendliness, and grace. That is what we all will need during what look like even more difficult times until things eventually change for the better.”

Especially relevant to Campbell’s endorsement was Turlay’s recent “denouncing negative fliers and TV ads put out independently by the Save Our City Political Action Committee” on his behalf.

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August 19, 2011

Sore Loser Pat Campbell Trashes McEnerny-Ogle and Turlay, Plans Write-in Campaign.

by lewwaters

UPDATE: A Columbian All Politics is Local blog post informs us, “Elections chief Tim Likness has informed us that primary losers cannot, we repeat, cannot, mount a write-in campaign.”

Ever the arrogant, self serving, sore loser, soon to be former Vancouver City Council member Pat Campbell, who finished third out of three candidates in Tuesday’s primary campaign, has come out slinging mud at the two who easily defeated him and has vowed a write-in candidacy.

Ousted Vancouver councilor to seek write-ins

The Columbian article states,

“In a fiery email sent Friday morning, Campbell came out swinging against the top two candidates, Anne McEnerny-Ogle and Bill Turlay.

He said that McEnerny-Ogle has made “vague impossible promises given our city’s short term financial outlook” and has a reputation for “an inability to work with others.”

Turlay, Campbell continued, is an “avowed Tea Party member” who “would rather the country go down the tubes rather than (see) an elected President succeed?”

“Two well-financed special interest campaigns that barely succeed against an incumbent with proven service and no special interest funding won’t succeed this fall,” Campbell wrote. ”The voters this fall wont be the ideologues.”

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July 26, 2011

Show The Yakima Bears the Door

by lewwaters

[Updated to reflect a major correction by the Columbian in who owns the stadium]

[Update 2: More on specific ownership of the stadium from Stephanie Rice added]

Vancouver’s city council got their first formal presentation for the Class A ball Team, Yakima Bears planned move to Vancouver. All council members except Pat Campbell have given City Manager “Erik Holmes the OK to research the issue and engage in potential discussions with Clark County” for adding a 5% entertainment tax throughout the county pay for construction of a $23 Million stadium adjacent to Clark College.

The Columbian

There are several pros & cons to relocating a Class A ball team to Vancouver, a large con being that 5% entertainment tax added to movie tickets, golf courses and several other forms of entertainment.

Although Clark County taxpayers will be on the hook for 70% of the costs of the proposed stadium, we were told “the stadium would be owned and maintained by Short Season LLC.” Stephanie Rice, the writer of the article posted this morning, “Key correction: the sentence should read (and now does) ‘the stadium would be publicly owned but maintained by Short Season LLC’.”

UPDATE 2: Comment from Stephanie Rice, “Lew, to be even more specific, the team would own it while the debt was being repaid, then it would be publicly owned. Here’s what I was told by the team when I asked why in documents it says the team would own it: ‘Ownership is during the period in which the facility is indebted. It secures the asset until the debt is retired. Then it is free and clear a public facility’.”

City council members Larry Smith and Jack Burkman asked to hear alternatives to the entertainment tax and were told of none.

Asked why taxpayers should pay for the stadium, Mike Thiessen of Short Season LLC said that “the team would be putting up 30 percent of the construction costs for a stadium it would use 13 percent of the time.”

That’s not exactly reassuring.

I have kept an open mind on this proposal, even though voicing concerns over its location next to the Vancouver Campus of the Veterans Hospital, but reading “After the workshop, co-owner K.L. Wombacher said the team does have alternate plans, but they don’t involve the city of Vancouver seals it for me.

It’s time to close the books and show these people the door.

We do not need to be threatened into coughing up tax dollars for a new stadium to be owned by a private enterprise “at a time when public services are being cut, a fire station closed, federal grants used to keep cops on the street and the city lacks money to fill all its potholes,” as expressed by Tim Leavitt’s former campaign manager, Temple Lentz as she “questioned the rationality of raising a tax for a stadium.”

Ms. Lentz expressed, “The terms political will and vision were used as qualities to make this happen. But giving $20 million of other people’s money to the first guy who comes up and asks for it is not political will or vision.”

July 21, 2011

Should I Care What Life Pac Says?

by lewwaters

As a political blogger I am approached from time to time by candidates and supporters asking for support, inviting me to their events or speaking against a candidate I might have decided to support. But, I have to say that tonight was the first time a PAC has contacted me to ask that I consider withdrawing an endorsement of a candidate.

What strikes me as odd, besides the fact that I have not endorsed Anne McEnerny-Ogle, or any candidate for Vancouver City Council for that matter, is that the link shown is to a recommendation I made a year and a half ago, when she was vying to be appointed to the city council seat that Bart Hansen ended up winning the nomination to.

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June 24, 2011

My, My, What Pat Campbell Finds “Encouraging”

by lewwaters

An email copied to Victoria Taft just today

Click image for larger view


First off, whoever “Jeff Nice” is, the description of “basement blogger” hardly applies as my house doesn’t have a basement.

Did Pat Campbell actually issue the reply to this insult laden email?

If so, what is so “encouraging” about it, Pat?

No one is forced to listen to Victoria Taft or any radio program for that matter. Just as no one is forced to read the Columbian or vote for Pat.

Then too, there is always that sticky little matter of the first amendment.

If you did in fact issue the reply, Pat, I’d really like to know what is so “encouraging” about it.

I’m sure your opponents and voters within the city limits would too.

May 12, 2011

Dump the Vancouver City Cartel

by lewwaters

With the latest stunt of Vancouver, Washington mayor Tim Leavitt and the city council, which more resemble a cartel than an elected body of representatives, it has come time to vote out any up for reelection.

Last September Mayor Leavitt, now known for his blatant lies to be elected as the Mayor in opposing tolling the new bridge that will eventually be constructed across the Columbia River, engineered a little sleight of hand trick, combining a citizen vote on extending Portland, Oregon’s financially failing Light Rail in with a vote for a sales tax increase to “preserve and expand existing C-Tran bus service” in Clark County.

One lone council member, Jeanne Stewart, gauging strong public sentiment against light rail from Portland, cast the deciding vote to split the ballot measures, correctly seeing that the public wasn’t going to fall for Leavitt’s trick and that C-Tran would most lose a significant portion of their funding.

Leavitt and the rest of the city cartel ungraciously voted to oust her from the C-Tran board, replacing her with Larry Smith.

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April 14, 2011

Bill Turlay Announces Run for Vancouver City Council, Pos. 6

by lewwaters

Bill Turlay, a US Navy Veteran actively involved in the community released the following statement this afternoon.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ….. TURLAY ANNOUNCES HIS CANDIDACY FOR POSITION # 6 IN THIS FALL’S CITY COUNCIL RACE

Today Bill Turlay announced his candidacy for Vancouver City Council Position #6, which is the seat currently being held by Pat Campbell . Bill’s announcement was delivered at the Clark County Republican Women’s luncheon held at Vancouver’s Club Green Meadows Banquet facility.

Turlay previously sought a council position in the 2009 election; he believes voters are ready for a more inclusive representative that will represent all of Vancouver and not just special interest groups.

Turlay cited three positions in his campaign platform; Preserving Livability within our neighborhoods, Zero Base Budgeting and more Government Transparency on issues facing taxpayers. ” It is incumbent on the Vancouver City Council to not incur any additional city debt, continue to drastically reduce its expenditures, extend payments for long term projects, and at the same time provide funding for core services.”

For more information please contact Susan Page, Campaign Manager at 360-253-6941 or bill.turlay@mail.com

The Vancouver City Council has been unresponsive to many community concerns, especially in regards to the proposed Columbia River Crossing and extending Portland’s financially failing Light Rail into the community. Turlay has been an outspoken critic of many council actions.

March 22, 2011

Portcouver Mayor, Council Members ‘Irked’ Over Public Records Request

by lewwaters

The ongoing saga of Vancouver City Council versus the citizens of Vancouver was elevated up a few notches with a request made under Washington Public Records Law.

The Zero Reports;

“Members of the Vancouver City Council, six of them the subject of a public records request for months of email correspondence, lamented the wide net cast by the request and the cost of the request to the city at a council meeting Monday.”

“Mitch Copp of Vancouver filed two public disclosure requests with the city earlier this year. The first, filed in January, asks for all of Mayor Tim Leavitt and Councilman Jack Burkman’s email correspondence from June 1 to Jan. 11. The second, filed in March, asks for email correspondence for council members Larry Smith, Jeanne Harris, Pat Campbell and Bart Hansen.”

“The number of documents we’re talking about can number in the tens of thousands, and every one of those documents has to be read by somebody to determine whether it’s disclosable or not,” Vancouver City Manager Eric Holmes said. “We will be responsible to those to fulfill our responsibility under the statute, but it is a pretty substantial burden on our staff resources.”

Leavitt, still licking his chops over successfully modifying citizens speaking rights before the ruling class said, “It’s going to cause a use of city dollars and resources we could otherwise be putting out on the streets in the form of police officers and firefighters.”

This from the same Mayor who doesn’t have a problem hanging the albatross of the Columbia River Crossing Project, including Portland’s financially failing Loot Rail around future generations necks.

Perhaps he shouldn’t have lied to voters on opposing tolls to be elected Mayor.

January 11, 2011

Vancouver City Council ‘Gavels Down’ Council Member Stewart

by lewwaters

Listen to Jeanne Stewart on KPAM 860 Victoria Taft Program HERE.

Represent the “will of the people” over the “will of the council” in Vancouver, Washington seems to carry with it grave repercussions today. In expressing their displeasure that council member Jeanne Stewart sided with the citizens and taxpayers of the city of Vancouver, Washington, fellow council members decided to remove Ms. Stewart from the C-Trans board for a vote cast months ago on separating a ballot vote on funding ‘Loot’ Rail from funding C-Trans itself.

Having the audacity to represent the people, a position apparently we mistakenly believe we elect these people to do, Jeanne Stewart was removed from the C-Trans Board Monday evening, January 10, 2011.

Pat Campbell is who called for her removal, described in the Columbian as “calling for Stewart to be yanked from C-Tran.” They quote Campbell as saying,

“I object to Ms. Stewart continuing on that [C-Trans Board]. She told us she wasn’t going to represent council wishes on a vote back in the fall … the person that we appoint should be someone that represents council and doesn’t tell council that they’re going to represent themselves.”

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September 30, 2010

Panel to Recommend Harris Receive Reprimand, Removal from Boards

by lewwaters

In a meeting lasting almost an hour, 3 Vancouver council members settled on a recommendation of fellow council member Jeanne Harris, receive a letter of reprimand and be removed from all boards she currently sits on, representing the city council and that they appointed her to, for her disrespectful behavior displayed September 13, 2010. VIDEO

Boards she sits on where she received a gubernatorial appointment (CRC) are not affected as it was felt they are outside the scope of the city council.

It was determined early on, with advice from city attorney Ted Gathe, that Harris’ disrespectful interaction with citizens is not covered by the current ethics policy. Councilman Burkman recommended council revisit it to update the ethics policy to include how members of the public are treated.

Council members stated they felt her actions the evening of September 13 were “demeaning,” “disturbing” and “highly inappropriate,” towards Mayor Leavitt and Council member Jeanne E. Stewart.

Removal from office was also ruled out early as the threshold for such action was not met, Gathe advised. He stated to reach that high threshold would take something along the lines of committing an actual crime.

The panel broke it down to 4 areas of concern, 1: Her conduct towards the public, which is not addressed by current policy. 2: Her conduct towards Jeanne Stewart during the meeting deemed inappropriate. 3: Her interference with the Mayors duty in conducting the meeting deemed inappropriate. 4: Her confrontation with Jeanne Stewart after the meeting also deemed inappropriate.

Discussion fell onto whether she should receive a letter of reprimand or a censure and it was determined there was not a lot of difference between the two. A letter of reprimand was deemed appropriate. Mayor Pro Tem Larry Smith stated he wanted more than just a “slap on the wrist” and Pat Campbell added he too wanted to give the letter “some teeth” behind it.

Jack Burkman said there few sanctions available they could use and then it was decided they would recommend she be removed from all boards she was appointed to by the council until she is up for reelection in 2013.

If the full council votes to accept the panel’s recommendation, it would be effective immediately.

Pat Campbell added that citizens should “stay tuned” and follow her for when she is up for reelection, as he felt that her conduct is not a matter for recall.

The panel hopes to wrap it up at the October 11 council meeting.

The Columbian’s Andrea Damewood published her take HERE with more to come in Friday’s paper.

KGW TV adds quotes from citizens present.

“They’re going to smack her on the hand, she’s going to turn around and walk away,” said Stephanie Turlay. “They will not stand up and do what really needs to be done.”

“She needs to go,” said Josephine Wentzel. “If she doesn’t resign she needs to be taken out, we need to recall her.”

January 29, 2010

While Wash. Officials Ignore Oregon’s Gift, Chicago’s Mayor Swoops In

by lewwaters

It’s apparent to anybody watching the news that Oregon shot itself in the foot with the passage of measures 66 & 67 this week, the tax increases on businesses and the so-called wealthy.

I asked the question, “Will Washington & Clark County Recognize Oregon’s Free Gift?” in a blog post and in emails sent out to all of the elected officials that allegedly represent me, and some that don’t.

I sent to each on January 27;

“Good morning, As I’m sure you realize, Oregon passed their retroactive taxes measures 66 & 67 last evening that will place an undue burden on small businesses there.

I feel this is an opportune time for Washington to take advantage of Oregon’s folly and attract businesses to Washington State, especially hard hit Clark County.

Offering these businesses tax incentives to relocate would alleviate some of the 14.3% unemployment we have in Clark County and any perceived loss in taxes would be more than made up by increased employment and new wages, all paying taxes once again.

At the same time, it is imperative that proposed spending cuts go forward until we get past this economic crisis.

We need to stop worrying about Oregon and begin doing for Washington and Clark County.

Sincerely,
Lew Waters”

This was sent to Governor Christine Gregoire, Senator Craig Pridemore, Representative Jim Moeller, Representative Jim Jacks, Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt, Vancouver City Council members, Jeanne Harris, Larry Smith, Jack Burkman, Bart Hanson, Pat Campbell, Jeanne Stewart as well as to Clark County Commissioners, Tom Mielke, Mark Boldt and Steve Stuart.

Council member Hanson’s was kicked back, I assume due to him not being fully seated just yet, having just been appointed.

To date, I have received 3 replies, Larry Smith, Jim Moeller and Pat Campbell. Smith seemed non-committal while Moeller and Campbell come across as solidly opposed to any idea of offering incentives to bring businesses over from Oregon.

Representative Moeller even went so far as to tell the Columbian’s Kathie Durbin, who is well know for her left leaning screeds, Voters will step up when cuts get to be too much.

Yes Jim, the one thing you can always count on Liberals to do is vote to raise someone else’s taxes. But, as we saw back in 2003 in King County, when a ten cents per cup tax was proposed on fancy coffee drinks, they will solidly vote them down when they must pay them, even though it is “help the children,” as the “Latte Tax” was proposed to do.

The email reply I received from Moeller said,

“Thanks for your email. Yes! I saw the wonderful election results last night from our neighbors across the river. Although, we clearly differ on the two measures effects on small business, one thing we do agree upon, this is a great opportunity for Washington!

And what a victory! This was not just another liberal Multnomah County election result but a state-wide repudiation of the failed fiscal policies of conservatives that the only way to create prosperity is to cut taxes and shrink government services. Clearly the voters understand that simply cutting taxes and basic government services like education cannot continue and have any semblance of public education – the hope for our future, or other essential services for our elderly or disabled.

Although we have a very different tax system here in Washington we (like Oregon) will look at targeted tax increases (along with cuts and efficiencies) to help fund the basic building blocks of prosperity like education and public health and freight mobility. We will focus on rebuilding the economy and the creation of jobs in Clark County and across Washington by keeping our eye on the ball and the basics that gave us the prosperity to start with.

Finally, this was a great opportunity to affirm that progressive taxes on the successful and the wealthy is supported by the public when the voter knows what the taxes from the two measures will be used for.

Thanks for writing Lew, please write again.

Sincerely,
Rep. Jim Moeller”

Pat Campbell’s reply said,

“ They are working on getting their schools up to par. We need to keep working on this ourselves or we may loose one of the advantages we have over Oregon.
Regards,
Pat”

Any bets the schools will remain under funded and need more next year, just as always happens?

The Wall Street Journal sees through the charade with Taxpayer Ambush in Oregon.

Even the Columbian, railed on by us as a left-leaning paper and in a move I see as more center, sees the folly of Oregon’s vote with, “In Our View, Jan. 28: C’mon Over!” and “Ore. tax measures generate optimism.”

Both encourage Oregon businesses to move to Clark County that would help us in dealing with our 14.3% unemployment in Clark County.

Based on the replies I’ve received so far, it appears that our elected officials don’t see the golden opportunity lying before us and instead, would like to follow suit and hike taxes on the already struggling businesses in Clark County.

While our officials might be shirt-sighted, apparently not all Democrats are as an article appeared in the January 28, 2010 Chicago Sun Times, and covered by the Oregonian “Daley wants to raid Pacific Northwest talent,” addressing how Chicago’s Mayor, Richard Daley intends to try to draw those jobs our elected officials ignore to his city.

Daley said,

“Oregon’s tax blunder spells opportunity for Chicago. It will help our economic development immediately. You’d better believe it. We’ll be out in Oregon enticing corporations to relocate to Chicago. I’ll be very frank. I make no bones about that. If those states want to do that, so be it.”

Washington State already lost Boeing’s Headquarters to Chicago in 2001. Apparently Mayor Daley has no objection to picking the golden egg laid by Oregon’s voters.

But our own elected officials would seem to rather follow suit and drive our struggling businesses away.

Maybe a 14.3% unemployment rate isn’t high enough for them.

Perhaps in future elections, they will be put in the unemployment line and we can then elect people who will pay more attention to our community and actually represent us like Mayor Daley is prepared to do for Chicago and we can get back to work.

UPDATE 1: Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt has replied and seems to me that he hopes to see busineses relocate into our community,

“Hello Lew —
Indeed, I’m hopeful that we’ll see some legit business activity, in light of the message Oregon voters have delivered to business and entrepreneurs in their State. Already some folks have been ‘kicking the tires’ here in Clark County.

We’re working hard at bringing more jobs to SW Washington, as well as helping our existing employers with expansion and growth. There’s plenty of opportunity, and plenty of work to do!

Good to hear from you.
best,
Tim”

UPDATE 2: Rep. Jim Jacks reply, received February 14, 2010

Greetings Lew,

Thanks so much for your note about the recent Oregon elections. We have some measures we are working on to stimulate business development in Washington and I couldn’t agree with you more that attracting businesses, and therefore jobs, to our state is critical to getting our economy turned around in the right direction.

It’s important to hear from you and learn what your priorities are – I appreciate your input. Please feel free to call my office (360) 786-7924 anytime about anything.

All the best,

Jim Jacks
State Representative
49th Legislative District – Vancouver
322 John L. O’Brien Building
Olympia, WA 98504-0600

360-786-7924
Jacks.Jim@leg.wa.gov

October 17, 2009

Pat Campbell, Take A Vacation

by lewwaters

Pat Campbell Fortunately for Vancouver’s City Councilman, Pat Campbell, he is not up for reelection this term. Given some of his outbursts towards citizens, if he were he might find himself ousted easily.

I give Pat credit for being one of the few, if not only, council member who reads citizens blogs and letters to the editor and comments on occasion. In the past he has shown me that he cares what citizens are saying.

Something has happened to his demeanor, though as I have noticed his comments towards citizens have been getting derogatory if he disagrees with them.

I first came aware of Pat’s attitude last year from an email a friend received from Pat concerning I-409, the failed initiative on curbing Illegal Immigration in Washington. Pat assured me on my blog that it was just a joke and as happens to me, jokes are often taken serious.

Giving him the benefit of doubt, I accepted the reply knowing how my own dry sense of humor gets me in trouble from time to time.

However, some time later and completely out of the blue, he launched into another commenter with a totally unrelated comment to the subject.

Again, in an October 11 Columbian article, In our view: Pollard for Mayor, Pat came at me for speaking against the mayor and the budget deficit the city faces, telling me, “If you have paid off your mortgage then you might have a pebble or two to throw at city council Mr. Waters.”

That quip elicited the response from me of, “And no, I haven’t paid off my mortgage, but last I heard, voters still have the right to question the acts and conducts of our elected officials.”

He said nothing more to me on that.

However, the Saturday October 17 edition of the Columbian contains a letter to the editor from an 88 year-old Veteran who says he has not had his concerns on how the American Flag is flown at our Veterans Memorial against Army Regulations, in spite of asking Mayor Pollard about it for over a decade.

A decade mind you!

Pat’s outburst towards him is unbelievably rude and uncalled for. It is no doubt beneath the dignity of an elected official. It is a crude and disrespectful manner in which to address a citizen, especially an aging Veteran.

Why haven’t the concerns of Mr. Tharp been addressed in the 10 years he’s been asking? Has anyone sat down or even written Mr. Tharp a letter explaining the flag is proper or the reason it may not be?

Instead, Pat Campbell, a sitting member of the Vancouver City Council and who claims to also be a Veteran, blasts an aging Veteran for his comment against the mayor during a campaign!

Disturbing on how he blasted Mr. Tharp is Pat’s own words left at the Columbian on February 17, 2009, “I expect some strong emotions in letters and emails directed towards me. People have a right to their feelings and an expectation they will be heard and treated as fellow human beings by those who endeavor to serve them.”

Why isn’t a Veteran as Mr. Tharp entitled to that sentiment?

What is most disrespectful is Pat’s words of, “It is only recently that some of us veterans have even been thanked for following the orders of your generation’s leaders… even though we weren’t so keen on a lot of Army regulations at that time or even now.”

I wonder how Pat would react to a returning Veteran from Iraq or Afghanistan coming before him at a council meeting or even on the street and blasting him with the same words, since the leaders of the Military today is our generation?

As a Viet Nam Veteran I am all too familiar with the reception we received coming back to “the world,” and since. I am also too familiar just which political party micro-managed that war from the Oval Office and how elements of the left undermined us and even cheered for our deaths.

I also know that our thanks actually began when President Ronald Reagan dedicated the Viet Nam Veterans Memorial and issued a public thank you to all of us.

I am also aware of crude, rude and obnoxious conduct by elected officials, Veterans or not, towards citizens.

Is Pat worried that Royce Pollard is going to lose? Is he fearful of Tim Leavitt winning for some reason?

Since Pat and Tim served together on the council and Pat once said of the council, “The Vancouver Council’s decisions are group decisions, not Leavitt’s nor Pollard’s.” I fail to see or understand why Pat chooses to attack commenters in disagreement with Pollard as he did Mr. Tharp, instead of addressing their concerns.

This is very unlike the Pat Campbell I first began exchanging words with.

Pat, take a vacation. Get away for a while. Get outside and breathe some fresh air.

Don’t worry about when you get back. You will still have your seat on the council under Mayor Leavitt.

But mostly, learn a little respect for the voters.

November 21, 2008

Vancouver Ignoring ILLEGAL Alien Problem?

by lewwaters

vancouver-logoAs most anyone who has shopped in Wal-Mart, Ross or the Dollar Stores around town knows, we seem to have an over abundance of recent immigrants. Many seem to have no inclination to assimilate to our culture, preferring to retain their own, including their native language.

As has been mentioned before, here and here, an effort is underway in our state to bring an Initiative before the legislature, and voters if need be, to curtail those that choose to enter the country ILLEGALLY, take advantage of the benefits here and take jobs at lower wages than our citizens would.

Response from citizens has been pretty good so far as we have gone door to door in my neighborhood, attended gun shows in Portland and Vancouver and stood outside many businesses gathering signatures. Not everyone is receptive, naturally, but response has been pretty good.

A friend in this effort, ‘Eric,’ recently emailed the Vancouver City Council inquiring if Council members would stand with us in upholding our Immigration Laws by supporting and signing the petition for I-409.

The response ‘Eric’ received from Councilman Pat Campbell is somewhat shocking, to say the least. He responded,

Eric,
We are having a financial crisis down here in Vancouver. Not sure that this is an issue we can deal with locally except through the referrals to ICE which have been ongoing when a person who may be the the category you speak of is convicted of a crime.

I know we are likely providing water, sewer, and garbage services down here, but the illegals aren’t being segregated out by either us of Clark Public Utilities (electricity) and either pay their bills or they are cut off…

I have occasional contact Don, Joe, Jaimie, and Ed but they haven’t mentioned this as an urgent problem or suggested a solution.

Good luck to you and please don’t go too far with this. My ancestors did not have permission from the Snohomish Tribe to move here when they first arrived in Washington State. Hope you XXXXXX’s have your documents…
Seriously,
Pat Campbell

Reviewing this reply leaves me with a few questions.

If someone is in our country in violation of standing immigration laws, is that not already a crime?

Could Vancouver’s current “financial crisis” be due in part to waiting until a matter becomes an “urgent problem” before dealing with it?

Blogger note: Question of Pat Campbells advocating the city purchase of the Columbian building has been removed as I was incorrect on that. By his words in the comments below, “I supported an assessment of the matter.” My apologies for the erroneous assumption.

If ILLEGALS do not pay their utility bills, are they really shut off? Or, do they fall under Clark Public Utilities Operation Warm Heart?

My wife, who hails from Houston, can testify that ILLEGAL immigrants have an underground network informing each other of cheap places to live and social programs they can obtain with a minimum of effort. I find it hard to believe they haven’t the same here.

Most disturbing in his reply is the final paragraph that I cannot take as anything but a threat to a citizen making a legal inquiry to a public servant about upholding the current law.

We are supposed to be a nation of laws, are we not? Have we gotten to where laws will be cherry picked by our elected officials as to which will be followed or not? And, if we question one not being enforced, do we deserve threats from those who are elected to represent us?

As for having “documents,” Councilman Campbell, I hold a Birth Certificate issued in the State of Florida in 1948. Last I heard, that is within the Continental United States, even if we used to speak funny down there.

I also hold two DD 214’s, a few medals for Military Service in Viet Nam, Germany and Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I hold a lifetime membership in Disabled American Veterans and a VA Medical card. I pay property tax on the home I own with my wife and hold a valid Washington Drivers License.

What’s more, Councilman, should I take all of those to Mexico, Canada or any other country for employment or benefits, they get me nothing, as it should be.

But, the main question remains, why does an elected public servant feel the need to threaten a citizen who inquires about enforcing the law?

UPDATE: Pat Campbell admits it was intended as a joke. See comments below.