Posts tagged ‘town halls’

May 19, 2010

Is Patty Murray Afraid to Face Voters?

by lewwaters

I just got off of the telephone where I was listening in on Patty Murray’s latest unannounced tele-conference call, lasting shortly over a half-hour.

As usual, the call come, unannounced and those who answer are given a chance to participate if they choose. This is about the fourth such call I have received from Murray and for once, I was able to participate.

I was not able to ask my question due to time constraints. Although I pressed the necessary numbers and was acknowledged as waiting to ask a question, the screener never asked my name or location.

But, the real question is, why doesn’t Patty Murray actually schedule town halls or give voters in Washington State prior notice of a pending call to ask pertinent questions of her?

If she fears face to face meets around the state, why the unannounced calls and such a short time where only 3 or 4 people receive the privilege of asking her questions instead of scheduled conferences where more people can participate?

Is it really representing voters to claim such out of the blue acts is communicating with us?

I don’t believe so.

August 30, 2009

Rep. Baird Retreats From Living Room Meet

by lewwaters

Congressman Brian Baird has sure been making the news lately, during this recess.

He’s had to apologize for references to “brown-shirts,” “lynch mob tactics,” “Timothy McVeigh” references and do a fast dance on a Ryder Truck comment at the Rotary Club meet, prompting the Columbian’s to run interference for him by penning an article “explaining” the ‘inartful’ comment as referring to a “death threat” he alleges he has received.

I say, “alleges” because no one can confirm such a threat was received or reported to the authorities when contacting those authorities his staff alleges to have reported it to. All that is said is “an investigation in ongoing,” with no explanation of what is being investigated or when it was launched.

Most of this was used by Brian Baird as his excuse for initially denying citizens of Washington States Third Congressional District a face to face town hall meeting, where he obviously feared intense opposition to his expected support of the proposed healthcare reform measures and two highly questionable votes in support of massive spending bills that he could not possible have read first.

We eventually received a town hall meeting in Clark County, where he did indeed receive an earful. We even made National News as a video of Marine Veteran David Hedrick came out forcefully confronting him on some very relevant points.

But, prior to all this, Baird held what he calls a “tele-conference” townhall, where those aware of the call could call in and by dialing ‘*3’ be placed in queue to ask him questions live, on August 7.

One of those calls was from a lady in Pacific County who offered a peaceful meeting with him in her living room; to offset any worries he had about having to face a hostile crowd at a town hall. Baird readily accepted the meeting and scheduling such a meet began.

Nansen Malin, the woman who made the offer told me that almost immediately after the tele-conference ended, members of the national media, desiring to cover the meeting since she identified herself as the Chair of the Pacific County Republican Party, contacted her.

By August 17, Kelly Love, Baird’s district director contacted Ms. Malin and after discussing possible dates, options and scenarios, to include security, press and an invitation list, September 1 was agreed upon for this meeting in her home.

Nansen was told a member of Baird’s staff would be getting back to her “very soon.”

The next day, August 18, Nan opens her newspaper to read that Baird has announced a town hall meeting in Ilwaco on Sept 1.

She fires off an email to Kelly Love inquiring about the conflicting dates, expressing her displeasure at not being contacted and asking if the meeting in her home has been cancelled.

Kelly calls Nan from backstage at the Clark County town hall and tells her the meeting in her home is still on and they now desire to hold it in her garden instead of the living room.

Not hearing from anyone on Baird’s staff, Nan again emails Kelly Love on August 24, receiving an apology from Ms. Love and the explanation, “I was under the understanding that our Chief of Staff was going to call you back. I apologize.”

On August 26, Nan returned a call from Kelly Love where she again apologized for no one calling her back to tell her that they had scheduled an alternate event in Ilwaco and explained that congressman Baird had every intent on honoring the agreed upon meeting in her home, but “after reading your blog posts,” congressman Baird will not be coming to her home.

Kelly did extend an invitation to Nan to attend the Ilwaco town hall.

Did Brian Baird think a Republican would just kiss his butt in blog posts or adopt the Democrat Party mantra and roll over?

Did he even actually intend on making the meeting?

Kelly Love even admitted to Nan, in reference to reports of Republicans “acting badly,” “no, no, the town halls have all been very civil. There have been no problems at all.”

Did he back off because he could not ensure coverage would be favorable to him?

It all sounds to me as if Baird’s slick political manner swung into high gear because he spoke too soon during the tele-conference, but he will never state any such thing.

An August 13 editorial in the Daily Astorian mentioned the scheduled meeting between Ms. Malin and congressman Baird and acknowledged, “Seaview’s sane and reasonable county GOP Chairwoman Nan Malin invited Baird to her home for a civil discourse on health care.”

Even they see that Ms. Malin is “sane and reasonable” in an editorial that heavily condemns other GOP pundits, leading me to accept that any meet in her home would be what was offered, “a civil discourse on health care.”

Isn’t that what Brian Baird has been clamoring for all this time?

Is he now afraid to honor his agreement and chooses a flimsy excuse of she writes pro-Republican posts on her blog?

Maybe he is just hallucinating about Ryder Trucks again.

UPDATE: The Columbian, always on top of things, finally mentions Baird’s backing out of his agreement. Baird cancels ‘living room meeting’ with GOP chairwoman

August 23, 2009

Why Baird Was Told “Stay Away From My Kids”

by lewwaters

By now I am sure the majority of the nation has viewed the video of a Marine named David telling off Washington State Congressman Brian Baird and his angry comment, “ Stay away from my kids.

It was my honor to have been present and in the audience of some 2800 citizens to witness David’s confrontation of our congressman.

David was rightfully angered by the recent action of congressman Baird’s, as is seen in his confronting Congressman Baird.

David alluded to an earlier comment on parenting that did not set well with neither him nor a lot of the audience.

Below is what congressman Baird had to say earlier in the town hall to another Veteran named Jeff, who also expressed his displeasure not only with congressman Baird, but with both of our Major Political Parties.

It was Jeff who brought out the provision to fund and set-up “home visitation programs” to educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills. Take note of Baird’s poor attempt at justifying government supplied information on parenting.

CVTV footage, obtained pursuant to the Public Disclosure Act, in no way is intended by CVTV, the City of Vancouver, or Clark County to either promote or oppose any candidate for public office or any ballot proposition.

Please note, I have edited out portions of Jeff’s question and congressman Baird’s reply unrelated to the question on “home visitation programs.”

For decades now, we have been deluged with book after book on parenting. Do we really need more government intrusion into our families that they will instruct us now on how to properly raise our children?

The entire 2 1/2 hour video of the town hall may be downloaded or seen at CVTV. Just click on Available On-Demand – Town Hall: Congressman Brian Baird (8-18-09)

Copying or forwarding to your own site must include the CVTV disclaimer above.

August 11, 2009

Constituents Snubbed By Baird, Unions Get Stealth Town Hall

by lewwaters

Updated & Rewritten

Baird relents, see update after post

Knowing that the media all over America has been reporting that Congressman Brian Baird had to “cancel” plans to hold Town Hall meetings with constituents over a “death threat” allegedly faxed to Baird, it was a bit perplexing to be notified this morning of a call that went out to selected members of the WA Federation of State Employees Union, urging to show up to a “meeting” to be held in Cowlitz County, Thursday, Aug 13 from 2 PM to 4 PM, that would be a face-to-face with Congressman Baird.

Baird has said in regards to face-to-face town hall meeting with constituents, “What we’re seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics,” and “There is this national movement in blogs and on the Internet to go to town hall meetings solely to attack people.” He went on to say, “live meetings will ‘probably resume’ in September or October,” in an interview with the Columbian.

Since Clark County constituents were treated to a hastily set up tele-conference Friday, August 7, with a very last minute notification going out to some, it piqued my interest to read of Union members being invited to meet with in a face-to-face meeting with a couple days notice.

I found it especially curious, as Representative Baird had indicated fear for his life due to the death threat allegedly faxed to him, but so far, it has been only Union thugs that have physically attacked and beaten people at town halls.

Searching for any announcement of the meeting, I was directed to the August 11 edition of the Longview Daily News and the article, Federal lawmakers to get report from Mount St. Helens panel which announces,

“Swanson said Friday he didn’t believe public comment would be taken at Thursday’s event, but it is open to the public. The meeting is only scheduled for one hour, making a public comment session unlikely.”

“Thursday’s meeting is at 2 p.m. in the Cowlitz County Expo and Conference Center, 1900 Seventh Ave., Longview.”

That certainly doesn’t sound like much of a meeting to stack it with supporters, especially with the email notifying those selected members saying,

“Spread the word & come if you can…. btw, this is NOT a health-care event (though it wouldn’t surprise me if there was protesting going on). Come out in your green shirt & hear what your Congressman & Senators have to say!”

Looking around the WA Federation of State Employees web site I found,

A number of town hall meetings are scheduled in coming weeks. While Congress is home on vacation, make sure they hear from you about health care reform. Attend an event in your area with your Members of Congress to show that we need health care reform and we need it now. It would be very good to counter the anti-health care reform rhetoric at these Town Halls. To see the schedule in your area and to download resources you can use, go to http://www.wfse.org > Action Center.

You’ve seen the news reports showing the shouting matches at these town hall meetings, some from legitimate frustration, but a lot orchestrated by big business and the big insurance companies. You need to make your voice heard so the call for affordable health insurance isn’t drowned out by the greed of the insurance companies.

One important town hall meeting is set this Thursday in Longview.

Senator Murray, Senator Cantwell and Representative Baird are scheduled to be in Longview on Thursday to speak on local issues. This was not scheduled as a health care event, but opponents of health care reform are targeting this meeting as a platform for their message.

We need AFSCME health care reform ADVOCATES in the house. Please try to attend!

Details:
Mount St. Helens Citizen Advisory Committee Update
Thursday, August 13, 2009 / 2:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m.
Cowlitz County Expo Center, Loowit Meeting Room, 1900 7th Ave., Longview

But, didn’t the Union email just say it wasn’t about healthcare?

Looking around some more, I was even more surprised to discover on the official Obama website, Organizing For America,

Standing up for insurance reform in Longview, WA with Sen. Murray, Sen. Cantwell, And Rep. Baird (Health Care Public Event)

Our representatives are under attack by Washington insiders, insurance companies, and well-financed special interests who don’t go a day without spreading lies and stirring up fear. We need to show that we’re sick and tired of it, and that we’re ready for real change, this year.

Please come to the Health Care event, and make sure that the most powerful voices in this debate are those calling for real reform.

Please try to arrive by noon; space is available on a first-come, first-served basis.

Time: Thursday, August 13 from 2:00 PM – 4:00 PM
Host: Organizing for America
Location: COWLITZ COUNTY EXPO CENTER (LONGVIEW, WA)
1900 7TH AVENUE LONGVIEW, WA 98632

This is the same location, same day and same time the Daily Times tells us the three will be in Cowlitz to receive a simple report, in a one-hour meeting. Surely they cannot be in more than one place at one time, so it appears the public announcement went out in the very bottom of a article filled with deflective words, possibly to discourage public attendance, seeing just another boring meeting over nothing too important.

Yet, OAF and WFSE are sending out invites to stack a town hall type event that all 3 will be at, showing any media invited how the citizens of southwest Washington support this healthcare reform when they televise it later on.

Baird champions himself as an advocate of his constituents, yet we are snubbed when it comes to meeting with him face-to-face to discuss such an important matter as totally revamping our healthcare industry under near complete government control. We that were lucky enough to get through last Friday were entitled to ask a question over the phone and only those fortunate enough to be listening in were able to hear the answers given.

And now we see that Baird, along with Murray, Cantwell, OAF and WFSE seem to be conspiring to hold a stealth townhall on healthcare that will most assuredly will be shown afterwards as a big win for Democrats, when voices of opposition will not be present, not knowing what was really going on.

If this is not a deliberate attempt to set-up a favorable town hall for display, then these people are inept and should not be trusted running out healthcare system.

This is not an “advocate of the people,” but a career politician ponying up to special interest money for support

I can’t really say I’m shocked, but clearly, Brian Baird needs to be replaced in November 2010.

With the challengers running, to replace Baird, he has shown a complete lack of regard for voters in Washington’s Third Congressional District with favoring special interests.

UPDATE: Congressman Baird, obviously under fire from many constituents, has cancelled the stealth townhall and is arranging town halls for constituents. Baird apologizes, announces meetings

August 8, 2009

Democrats, STOP THE LIES!

by lewwaters

New Democrat Seal Senators and Congresscritters alike have been caught off guard and very surprised during the current recess as they face angry voters and constituents at Town Halls, who are upset with their voices being ignored.

For too long now we constituents have felt that our concerns no longer matter to those elected to represent us and all across the country, angry voters are shouting at their elected officials what we want heard.

We are angry at the massive debt increase under the bailouts, the so-called stimulus package and the cap and trade bill being passed rapidly with few, if any, actually reading it.

Now, we see a repeat as a Universal Healthcare reform bill is being rushed through the halls of Congress with elected officials ignoring what the public is saying. We are upset at what the bill has to say and potential harm it will do to children and the elderly.

Instead of putting our fears to rest by showing exactly what is in the bill, we are largely scoffed at, told we couldn’t possibly understand such a complicated measure and yes, ignored!

Taken aback by the anger of those who elected them, instead of listening to voters, Democrats and their hired gun mouthpieces in the media have trumped a series of lies deflecting the outrage and claiming it is all manufactured by Republicans and organized by conservative groups.

The most ridiculous claim is that we do this to “shut down free speech.”

Ridiculous because it has been our free speech shut down for far too long as out voices have been ignored, first by too many Republicans through the Bush year and now, by Democrats as they continue their stranglehold on the country.

The New York Times, possibly the least credible media source in America today, has ran an article, Health Debate Turns Hostile at Town Hall Meetings, where they continue the bogus claim of “protesters are being organized by conservative lobbying groups like FreedomWorks.”

Republicans deny the charge, as it is a bald-faced lie, which leads the Slimes to say, “There is no dispute, however, that most of the shouting and mocking is from opponents of those plans.”

Guilty as charged! We are fed up with being ignored and silenced as we have been under 8 years of verbal assaults by Democrats and Liberals who organized under groups such as moveon.org and ImpeachBush.org, now renamed to IndictBushNow.org and several more.

What we are not guilty of is organizing under the so-called “memo” they hold up as their “proof,” as was revealed days ago at the Weekly Standard and Media Research Center.

Had the New York Slimes’s Ian Urbina actually engaged in some old fashioned investigative journalism, or simply googled the subject, he would have known the claim was bogus and a lie. Instead, like a good little neo-com Bolshevik, the lie is spread.

After being labeled “mobsters” by Democrats, some radio hosts adopted the label and spoof it by saying, become a part of the mob.”

To the neo-com left that is close enough to claim how conservatives have organized and orchestrated unrest. To them, radio personalities saying, “Attend an Obama Care Townhall near you,” is marching orders to show up and disrupt the proceedings.

As can be seen at a Denver, Colorado appearance of Speakerette Nancy Pelosi recently, in reality it is the left who is organizing disruptions and busing protesters complete with professionally produced material into regions to country conservatives free speech rights.

In St. Louis, Missouri, angry voters showed up for a Town Hall where they were blocked out, while Union supporters were snuck in a side door. Outside, afterwards SEIU Union thugs attacked and beat a Black man selling “Don’t Tread On Me” flags, sending him to the hospital.

In Tampa, Florida, more Union thugs stacked another Town Hall, pushing and shoving people and closing the doors on constituents, preventing them from even hearing what their elected officials had to say.

All across the nation marching orders have been given, community organizers have issued the call and professional protesters are showing up at Town Halls to block any opposition to the proposed healthcare reform.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) says, “to stick with what we’re doing and don’t let them throw you off course,” which I take as just ignore voters who disagree with you.

Even the White House has set up a web site encouraging everyday citizens to forward any emails or report citizens speaking on healthcare reform that they consider “fishy.” Never has a president called on citizens to “snitch” on each other for having an opinion.

Politicians and media pundits both cry about “town hall violence” now as reason to bypass town halls and maybe set up a telephone conference call with selected constituents.

Robert Gibbs, Obama’s personal mouthpiece has said the disruptions were organized attacks aimed at Democrats by conservative, anti-health care reform interest groups.

He makes no acknowledgement of his own parties complicity in calling out the dogs to attack ordinary citizens trying to have their voices heard.

News reporters broadcast the violence across the nation popping up at town halls, but make no mention that it is Union thugs sent out by calls from Democrats and the administration. They just leave listeners and viewers to believe it is conservatives perpetrating the violence when it is actually the liberals, potentially setting up another Reichstag Fire.

Since Obama and the Democrat cabal swept into power by perpetrating lie after lie after lie, our economy has totally tanked, unemployment is near levels of the Great Depression, the national debt has increased threefold at least and Americans are more divided than since the Civil War, even bypassing the unrest during the Viet Nam era.

And, all in just over 200 days!

Spineless Republicans, eager to maintain a conciliatory tone, cowered from the attacks of the lying Democrats over 8 years, expelling our strong member over trumped up scandals.

And now that middle class Americans have risen up, angry as their grandchildren’s future is mortgaged heavily to foreign interests, Democrats perpetrate more lies and send in the goons to beat back any opposition, physically if need be.

Democrats ran on the promise of “uniting Americans.” Another lie apparently, unless we desire to give up our freedom and liberty and knuckle under to their socialist agenda where they have the wealth and the rest of us are poverty stricken.

Our country is imploding and all the Democrats can do is continue the lies, painting others of what they are guilty of.

Democrats, STOP THE LIES!!!

We can never have the “peaceful discourse” you claim to desire so long as you keep telling lie after lie after lie about ordinary common middle class Americans exercising their free speech and demanding representation, not a dictatorship.

We want our voices heard and have a right to express displeasure with proposed bills that directly affect us. We have a right to truth in media reports. We have the right to throw your sorry asses out if we are not guaranteed our freedom and liberty is maintained and protected.

Above all, STOP THE LIES!!!!

August 8, 2009

Victim of Union Thug Beating Speaks**More Thuggery in Denver

by lewwaters

Kenneth Gladney, the unemployed Black man who was viciously assaulted and beaten by a gang of White SEIU Unions thugs in St. Louis appeared on Fox News with Neil Cavuto to speak of what happened to him.

Fox News Video

Gladney was there just to make some money and receive some information on the issue, as he was undecided on it. But, as has been shown, he had the audacity to step off of massah Obama’s plantation and was attacked for expressing his free rights.

Gladney later appeared at the protest outside of SEIU’s office in St. Louis.

For all the cries of how it is Republicans organizing to disrupt and drown out others at town halls and elsewhere, proof is surfacing of who actually is orchestrating violence and disruption across the Nation.

Nancy and the Astroturfers

Democrats claim they want a peaceful discourse, yet organize to beat, shout down and insert their selves in ront of every honest American displeased with the course the country has taken.

Democrats, STOP THE LIES!

August 7, 2009

Where is Baird? KATU Report

by lewwaters